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I'm new to this buyfag stuff, but I have to ask. Are there any other places from where I can order books and CDs?

Right now I'm browsing Alice Books and almost everything that looks interesting is sold out. Pic somewhat related.
Mandarake is another good place to shop. Ordered a doujin from them and got it in less than a week.
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>>1551

They ship to Europe, that's great.

Thanks.
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>>1552
>>1551
Mandarake's pretty bro but don't miss a payment or pay late or they'll ban you from their service permanently, and they're autistic about checking to make sure you can't make a second account.
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>>1553

>don't miss a payment or pay late or they'll ban you from their service permanently

That's a bit frightening.

I hope they accept Paypal, because the nearest bank here is 25 kilometres away.
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>>1554
I think they used to, I don't know if they still do. I just paid via Visa when I ordered my book.

But yeah, make sure you pay on time and don't cancel your orders. I think they let you do it once or twice but anymore after that they'll ban you.
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>>1555

After you picked your item, when did you receive the notification to pay for it?
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>>1556
It only took them about 24 hours to find the item and give me a quote, but it can take up to 3 days I've heard. Keep in mind they operate in Japan and you'll probably get the email at a weird time.

Anyway, you'll have 5 days to pay after receiving the email.
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>>1554
They still accept paypal but last time I wanted to use it, I had to email them when they sent me the initial invoice to tell them to give me the invoice via paypal. They just changed their site and it's kind of shit now.
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>>1557

>5 days

That's not so bad. Thanks for your help.

I can't believe I'm actually doing this.
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>>1559
No problem. It's actually pretty painless and an enjoyable experience. I'm looking forward to ordering from them again.

Unless you're importing loli or something, then you'll be biting your nails hoping it passes through customs without getting inspected
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>>1560

>loli

No, just the usual dog or fox girl nonsense.
I'm looking at some stuff at Alice Books and I'm about to order.

There is an option for "International Mail" Service or EMS. Is the "International Mail" Service parcel going to survive the trip to Europe or should I go with EMS and pay 8 times the price of the single book I'm ordering just to be sure?
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>>1577
The only real difference is the speed, I'm sure they'll pack it the same way regardless. The only problem is the longer it's in transit the higher the risk of someone stepping on it or whatever.

It's up to you to decide if it's worth paying the extra.
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>>1578

I'll just have to risk it and hope for the best.

It's a book in an envelope, I'm sure if someone steps on it nothing will happen. It's not like it's a dvd case or a CD.
>>1577
Ive gotten some things from them, if it survived the trip to us I sure it will to whatever part of europe youre in. From my experiences it still comes within a nice time too, longest I ever had to wait was 2 weeks.
I'm thinking of getting another book. I kinda like the look of this book, but I'm not too sure about it.

http://alice-books.com/item/show/2766-1
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>>1611
Ehh, that seems kinda pricey for what you get. It's only 16 pages. On the plus side, looks like there's good artists in there.

Personally I'd wait and see if the price goes down, but it's up to you.
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>>1612

Yeah, I thought so. I'll wait for now, maybe get another Sindoll book for 600 jpy.
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>>1620
Can't go wrong with Sindoll. :]
http://alice-books.com/item/show/232-2

>tfw the book I wanna get is sold out
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>>1623

>WKAR

Nice taste.
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>>1624
Thanks, have a wallpaper.

It's a shame he updates so infrequently. It's part of the reason I want the book.
>Can't go wrong with Sindoll

The guy's just doing American fursonas these days. Fuck that. He's become another DrComet.
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>>1626

Isn't he working on some animation right now?
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>>1626

>The guy's just doing American fursonas these days.

You mean sparkle-dog pictures for cash? Can you show me? I seriously didn't know this.
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>>1628
He just means that Sindoll is making money off of american commissions, dont get why hes so salty, his work is pretty much the same as before.
http://kousoku2.tumblr.com/
http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?id=16492
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I was thinking of buying Foxy Rena Vol 6 and this book:
http://alice-books.com/item/show/232-57

But I then I saw there was a 140 page Midori book and I'm not sure if I should get that. What if most of the stuff in this book isn't that good?
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>>1626
There was nothing wrong with Dr. Comet :(
Whatever happened to him, by the way? Last I heard he was pissed that people kept pirating his art CDs.

>>1627
I don't think so. There's that one Renamon animation that just came out and I think people kept confusing that artwork with his.

>>1630
That whole Midori book is available on sadpanda if you want to browse before you buy:
http://exhentai.org/g/793443/d01f5b33c9/
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>>1629
>dont get why hes so salty
Because I've been around long enough to see what happens when Jap artists go for the Furry market– for starters, they never return to drawing/creating/publishing the things at a quality they did before: it's just murrsonas on plain backgrounds like the rest of the Furry dreck. They no longer do doujins with any effort put in, and what they do put out is 'tiny'/fewer pages, and priced for the Americans– as we've already seen with Sindoll.

The Kemono Fursuiters are also fucking-up bigtime too due to 'wanting to follow the Furries' rather than being a distinct scene of its own. (I was about to start a thread about them a few weeks ago, but checking on what was being done currently was shown to be just a smaller version of Furry-suiters; in 5 years, there'll be conventions of generic murrsuits like in the States.
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>>1631
>Whatever happened to him, by the way?
Maybe someone told him for the past decade he's been near-exclusively drawing commissions for the freak Allen Fishbeck, who stalked V.A Tress MacNeille…
>>1631

Thanks for the link.

>>1632

Speaking of western shit, I saw they were selling one of those shitty Hard Blush comics on AliceBooks. Embarrassing.
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>>1632
That pic is making me rage. Probably the first legitimately bad fursuiting I've seen come out of Japan.

>>1634
No problem! Glad I could help.
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>>1632
In Sindolls case hes been doing art on plain backgrounds and simple cgsets for dlsite for a years now. (prices are also the same as around 2010 too) Last Kemoket and work for c86 are the same quality and length as his usual stuff too.

You have more experience than I do for both scenes so I'm not arguing the trend really but for him the only real difference Ive seen in the past 2 years is that you can actually commission him for work
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>>1635
Here's another pic that made me rage. Sure, the costuming is nice, but: the 3 identical suits were all made by the same person for money, and it's became a Generic like the toonhead carpetsuits.

It's too late for kemonosuiting. The only difference I can see between the second image (from the 'Chibakemo' convention) and a Furry convention photoshoot are the suit's head designs. Expect the Kemo scene to get overrun by guys wanting to wrap themselves in synthetic fur for their internetfriendz, and much less content like we're here being fans of… :/
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>>1639
Do we really have to post stuff that infuriates us
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>>1640
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>>1639
I've never really been into any suiting scene, but I'm sad to hear about the state of Japanese fursuiting. A lot of pics I've seen of their costumes and whatnot actually looked really great. There's a lot of suits in that crowd that look comparable to western suits. That's… Disheartening.

>>1640
This, on the other hand, is really nice. :3c
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>>1651

There was one suit I saw, I don't know if it was Japanese, but it had realitvely realisit fur, a life-like wolf head with a really long white mane.

Impressive and a bit creepy at the same time.
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>>1623
Huh, so I google translated a simple inquiry about the book and to my surprise, wkar replied.

どうもメールありがとうございます

隣の果実に関して
私は絵を描いただけで印刷とそのデータを扱っているのは同作者の白狛(http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?id=2305461)さんです。
なので彼に問い合わせていただければよろしいかと思います。
お力になれなくて申し訳ありません。

The only thing I can tell from this is that his co-author deals with this kind of stuff.
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>>1647
:o3
>>1652

>relatively realistic

I have embarrassed myself on a small board.
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>>1658
dont worry
WHATEVER YOU DO THOUGH
dont post furry porn ok
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>>1659

I might have missed a couple of typos, but I'm not a pleb.
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>>1629

I saw that he made one sergal picture.

Pic related, just look at that mane. He should draw more stuff like this, maybe some Border Collie smut because Sergals are tainted by western autism. That would be great.
I have to ask about buying used stuff from Mandarake.

Have you guys ever ordered anything used from Mandarake? In what condition were the items? Do I need to be concerned about stuff being seriously damaged and "mysterious" stains? A silly thing to ask, but whatever.
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>>1792

they list the condition along with the used sign usually. If it says 'poor' expect rips, tears stains, etc. But usually the Japanese are very good at keeping things in good condition.
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>>1793

So when it says "condition - average" it's in alright condition?
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>>1792
Mandarake is pretty anal about condition, so they'll usually list whatever is wrong with the book (dog eared pages, minor tears). They're also really good about not selling stuff that's been "stained" so there's no need to worry about that.

>>1794
The condition is probably fine.
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>>1795

Excellent.

I will be ordering some used stuff next month.
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I just got my order from AliceBooks and it only took 8 days for this stuff to reach Europe with the international mail service. Almost no damage, just a small barely visible dent on the bottom corner of Foxy Rena Volume 6 spine. Pic related, it's the stuff I got.

I am considering posting an unpacking of the Freya Crescent doujin on /v/, but I feel that would be impertinent and would probably draw negative attention to this board.
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>>1868
It's related to video games, so I don't see why people would get too upset. I think it'd be pretty funny personally.

I don't think you'd need to worry about drawing negative attention to the board, but if you're that worried about it then just be sure not to mention it.
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>>1874

I'll do it one day, I already took the pics. The reaction to the Crosscoda thread was hilarious, but I don't want to get banned.
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>>1875
As the dude who did the CrossCoda unboxing on /v/, I don't think you have much to worry about. If you're really worried about a ban then just be sure to post from your mobile phone. Really doubt anyone would ban you though.
Should I go full autism and get one of these?

http://alice-books.com/item/show/232-60
http://alice-books.com/item/show/232-61
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>>2026
I'd do it. :3c

Shame they don't have that middle one available, that looks the best in my opinion.

Also, what the hell is this?
http://alice-books.com/item/show/232-59
Did they actually make instant ramen for kemoket?
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Guy from /furry/ with a question.
Is there any website where you can look up a doujin and see what online stores have it available? So far, Ive only found one place that has what im looking for, but its sold out at the moment.
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>>2067

I'm not sure think such a site exists. You'll have to check Mandarake, Alicebooks and maybe Furbuy every once in a while. There is Yahoo Auctions, but sellers rarely ship abroad.

>>2066

I wish this one was still avaliable.

>instant ramen for kemoket
That's a bit weird.
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>>2068
>that pic

Yep, that's the best one. I want it now.
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The big book I ordered is finally here. Pardon the shitty quality of these pictures, I didn't have my camera with me.
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>>2079
Oooh, nice. I'm actually kinda jealous!
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>>2080

It doesn't have issue 7, but that's fine because it has some extra stuff and slightly redone artwork. It's sold out right now. The number 1 on the front cover and the fact issue 7 isn't in it leads me to believe we'll be seeing more of this stuff in the future.

I have to thank the Anon who mentioned this item in the Foxy Rena thread, I probably wouldn't find it on time if he didn't mention it. It's sold out now, but, I'm sure it will get reprinted.
>>2068
I need that mousepad. I think I've seen one other version, but I couldn't find an instock link anywhere.
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I bought OP pic related at a con I went to this weekend.
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>>2105

OP here, how much did you pay for it?

I can't find it anywhere, so I asked Superbus to go look for it.
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>>2107
Like 25 bucks.

Probably overpayed but I had to have it.
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>>2110

I would do the same if I was in your spot.

How about a little preview?
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>>2105
Which con might I ask?
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>>2111
I can do that, but they will be shitty cell phone pics since I don't have a scanner.
>>2112
San Japan, happened in San Antonio last weekend,
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>>2121

I wouldn't dare to ask for a scan, unless you want to ruin your book by bending it. I was asking for photos or something like that.

Neat, you can find kemono stuff outside furry conventions, that's good. So, was it hidden behind the counter? Did you have to specifically ask for kemono stuff?
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http://alice-books.com/item/show/647-9

Should I? The fact that it's MLP related is turning me off a bit, but I'm still slightly interested.
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http://alice-books.com/item/show/661-9

N-no…
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>>2131
Did you end up buying it? I just noticed that Nakagami Takashi was listed as one of the artists, meaning I probably would've bough it.
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>>2204

I did it, waiting for it to arrive.

I really shouldn't have, because I'm trying to save enough money to buy that premium MGSV package.
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>>2205
Neat. I don't suppose you're planning on scanning it, are you? Wouldn't blame you, I hate doing that to books.
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>>2206

I don't own a scanner and going to the university library to scan it would be a crazy thing to do.
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>>2203
>reservation closed

Fuck everything
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>>2208

Keep an eye on it because it will be available for sale for a really short time after the preorders get shipped.
I just paid for my first order from Mandarake.

>500 yen handling fee separate from shipping

What kind of bullshit is this?
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>>2215
Well, it takes a lot of work to look for that item and pull it off the shelf…
How do you guys know when this stuff is going to hit the stores? Do you follow any of the blogs belonging to the artists? I only follow Amakuchi's blog and Sindoll's tumblr. Got any links for other published artists?

>>2208

Dude, that book is available for sale now. Better act fast if you want to purchase it.
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>>2239

It's sold out for good now, I hope that Anon was quick enough.
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>>2239
A lot of artists post about their upcoming works on pixiv. Some even post sample pages.
Just ordered these two items
>>2131
>>2224

Now I'm waiting for the payment email to finalize my order.
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>>2240
I was busy that day and just read this now….hello darkness my old friend….
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>>2247

I'm sure it will be up on Furbuy with a slightly higher price.

You really should use something like a smartphone to keep an eye on these things while you are out.
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I'm looking at this stuff on Furbuy and I don't know if 25 to 30 dollars and 15 for shipping is a good deal for this.

>12 hours left
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>>2250

Update: I think I'll pass on this.
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>>2250
>>2251
It has been scanned and uploaded to the internet if you'd like to see what's in it. I love the art, but at that price I wouldn't get it.

Also, what's this Furbuy thing?
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>>2252

A place where scalpers sell 600 yen books for 25 dollars (shipping not included).

It's a furry auction site, but I just check it occasionally for Japanese stuff in the comic section.
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>>2253
I just looked. Jesus, you weren't joking.

They have a few books I'm interested in, but those prices are absolutely ridiculous. $15 shipping? It'd better arrive on the same day at that price.
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>>2254

>30 dollars for that new Sindoll book
>15 dollars of shipping if you are in Europe

It's awful. Even with the shipping costs it's cheaper to get it from Japan. I never bought anything from that site.

I have to ask something about Alice Books. I made an order on Saturday and I received the automatic reply with the order number, but I still haven't received the payment email. Now I'm really worried because one of the books that's in order is now out of stock. Is this going to affect my order? Do they send the payment emails during the weekend?
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>>2255
I've never ordered from Alicebooks, but if they work like Mandarake does then it might take a few days for them to send you the quote. The item might appear to be out of stock now on their webpage because they've set it aside for you.
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>>2256

I hope so.

I usually get the payment mail the next day during work days. It's Monday now and I still haven't received anything.
Okay, I paid for it on Monday and they still haven't shipped it. If I don't get a shipping confirmation on Friday I'm going to be pissed.

I paid for both items.
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>>2258
Sometimes it takes them a couple days to ship stuff.

But yeah, I'd shoot them an email if you don't get a shipment confirmation by Friday.
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>>2259

Man, it would suck not to get that Horse Sensei book. I really liked the horse stuff by Amakuchi featured in the Kemokko Lovers books.
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My order got shipped and everything is fine. They were just late with their email confirmation.

I'll post what I got in the mail a couple of days ago. I really like Setouchi Kurage's stuff, but it's always fully censored which is a real shame. I had to have this book, because I really enjoyed reading it despite the censorship.
>>2247

I hope you are here, because that book is up for sale again.

Up and at it, Anon. I believe in you, you can do it.
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>>2369
Good looking out man!

>Receive message "クレジットカード決済に失敗したため注文はキャンセルされました。入力した情報が正しいことを確認して下さい"

DONT FUCK WITH ME
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>Only EMS is available
>Purchase becomes $37

Are you fucking shitting me?

>Try again and select small packet and paypal
>It works

Wait what…….Alrighty then.
>>2378

Different Anon here, but judging by my shit Japanese skills (and a lot of dictionary checking) it's saying something along the lines of:

Credit Card failure. Confirm that the information is correct and try again please.
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>>2380
I figured as much so I used my paypal for it and it seemed to work. And now I play the waiting game.
>>2378

I always used paypal so I never ran into this problem. You won't have to wait long, you'll get it in 10 days.
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>>2382
Got my invoice and I paid it.

>didn't check shipping address on paypal
>says it's shipping to my parent's address

Please tell me they're gonna ship it to the address you put on the website when you first order it.
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>>2399

You can change it by emailing them if they haven't shipped it yet. I did that for my first order.
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>>2400
I just got an email that says they accepted my payment but the shipping address in that email is the one I want them to send it to and not the paypal one. Should I still email them?
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>>2401

It's fine, I don't think you need to email them if the shipping address is correct.
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I set out with the goal of buying something tonight and now I don't know what to do.

>CrossCoda auction on furbuy that ends in 2 days with one 15 dollar bit
>Kemokko Lover 4 with a damaged corner for 2500 jpy on Mandarake
>That 140 page book featuring Midori for 1800 jpy on AliceBooks

I really wish I could buy CrossCoda, but it will probably get up 60 dollars once the bidding war starts.
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>>2406
I feel so lucky that I got my copy of Cross Coda when I did. Only paid around $20 for it too. I don't really know why the price suddenly skyrocketed.

Still, best of luck anon. If you don't win that auction, be sure to set an alert for it on Mandarake.
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>>2407

If the bid goes over 35 dollars I won't be buying it. Thanks for the heads up about the alert system on Mandarake, I didn't know they had that option.

Tell me, is there a more efficient way of searching Mandarake other than just writing "kemono" in the searchbar?
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>>2408
There's probably a more efficient way of doing it, but normally what I do is just search kemono, ケモノ, and けもの individually. Strangely enough you'll get different results depending on which one you use. You still have to wade through countless BL doujins, though

You can try searching via artist's name, but it can be pretty finicky. Preferably use their name written in Japanese when searching.
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>>2409

When I try to use their search by artist or group option it sometimes just refreshes the page and brings me back to the front page.
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>>2410
>>2409
Mandarake's website is coded like shit, sometimes it won't actually update when you search for something, sometimes I clear my cookies on mandarake, search again, and I see new results that weren't there 5 seconds previously.
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>>2411
Weird. Do hard refreshes not update the list properly?
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>>2412
Not always, it's very inconsistent. For best results, go back to the main page before starting a new search, and if you suspect you're seeing the same search results too often over a period of time, try deleting your cookies and searching from the main page.
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>>2415

That's really finicky. Thanks for the info.
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>New accounts (less than 14 days old) may not: use Direct Buy or bid in Last 24 Hours of an auction

No CrossCoda for me. Oh well, at least I have an account to use in the future. What a silly policy.
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>>2417
That is really stupid. I should probably make an account there just in case I need to use it in the future.

>that pic
I remember seeing you on /v/
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>>2420

Some lucky guy managed to grab it for 15 dollars and he was the only bidder.

About the image, I got really bored the last few weeks and made a bunch of crops. Mostly SIndoll pics.
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>15 bucks
Lucky him. I've seen it go for like $50 on ebay.

I crop Sindoll pics too. Small world.
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>>2422

I just checked Ebay, it's 46 dollar and the shipping is free for some reason. The book looks like it's in good condition despite the seller listing it as damaged.

I think I'll pass this time. Maybe it will pop up on Mandarake again.
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Here is some of the stuff I got a couple of weeks ago and the reason why my photographs are so bad.

I had a pretty decent camera, but I damaged the lense while I was abroad so I'll be stuck with this awful phone camera for a while.
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It came, and it didn't get sent to the wrong address!
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>>2484
Hope you enjoy your eye-liner wolf book.
>>2484
I'm not into that sort of stuff, but congrats on acquiring it.
I just got my Solatorobo stuff, expect to see something later today.

I also had to pay a 20 euro customs fee, because they added the postage costs with the price of the item.
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What kind of stuff?
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The 5th anniversary bag. I didn't do an unboxing because the package was brutalized by customs and my current camera is a bit shit.
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>>2507
Damn, that's blurrier than I expected.

I apologize for uploading such low quality photographs.
>>2507
do want
So, I'm trying to buy something from Mandarake and I keep getting the same error.
>Credit card transaction error.(3Dセキュア認証が実施できません。)

Something about the credit card's security code and I don't have any other option than pay with a credit card. Last time I ordered from them I paid using PayPal. My card is fine, but it doesn't work for some reason. This is from the Mandarake Fukuoka store.
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>>2580
Turns out my bank doesn't support the 3D Security System and I can't pay for this order with my card.
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>>2580
>>2581
Email their support with your order number or whatever they gave you and ask for a paypal invoice.
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>>2583
I already asked about Paypal, the support guy said they won't accept PayPal payments for adult stuff now. I emailed them and asked for an order cancellation. I hope they won't ban me because of this.

I'm going to another bank to open a proper account with a decent card tomorrow. I hope the book I want doesn't get sold while I wait for my new card.
Volume 8 is available again.
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This is awful.

What's their reasoning behind not being able to use Paypal for adult rated items? I even got a couple of emails today about items on my alert list getting restocked and I can't buy anything.
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>>2655
It's against paypal's terms of service to use it for any adult material, mandarake's been getting away with it under the radar for years. Paypal is probably getting serious with legal threats if they don't stop.

Anyway, just use a deputy service to get things off mandarake that's 18+ for the time being, mandarake will probably try and get a new payment option up within the year.
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>>2658
>Anyway, just use a deputy service to get things off mandarake that's 18+ for the time being

What exactly is a deputy service?
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>>2659
A service that will buy things in Japan for you and mail them to you, there's a lot of them so you might have to look around until you find one that works for you (and has good rates).

You would probably use paypal for them as well but I believe it sidesteps any legal issues because you're not technically paying for any items, you're paying for a service.
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>>2660
Thank you. I found four websites that offer this service.
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Do artists only sell their stuff once, or do they often do it more than that? There's a doujin that just got released last month at Kemoket (iirc) and I'm having trouble finding it available online outside of about two Japanese auction sites. Sorry, I'm incredibly new to the world of actually buying doujins.

https://www.doujinshi.org/book/850952/
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>>2894
Depends on the artist. Sometimes they'll sell stuff throughout the year at various conventions, other times they'll make a doujin and sell it once at one convention and it'll never get reprinted.

A general rule of thumb you should follow in this hobby is to buy something as soon as you can because you never know if it'll be available again.
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>>2895

False >>2895

Thanks for the reply

I guess it's too soon to know if this guy is gonna do any reprints, the one I was looking for was only released about a month ago.
So I just recently got into kemono stuff, and I'm not too familiar with kemono doujin artists, but I'm going to Comiket in a month and wouldn't mind being able to pick up some kemono stuff. Any advice on circles to look at while I'm there? It'll be my first time at Comiket so having a few names in mind would greatly help.
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Is there anything good to get noted when certain books hit? It seems some of the better ones sell out the second they're printed, and sometimes they don't always show up on sad panda.
>>2899
>Mayoineko/迷い猫, バンガロゥ,電気式, のら屋, miyubi, Sweet Taste, おるてんしあ, ケモノ絵描きの光速2, GREONE, きし弁

I listed a bunch of circles that I know of. I don't know who is actually attending.
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>>2903
This is a good list.
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>>2904
I forgot about 稲山神社 since I don't see their work often and their last book on Alice Books was restricted to Japan only.
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>>2906
cool, thanks for the list. I probably won't be there every day but I'll try to grab whatever I can on the days that I'm there. well, anything that I wouldn't feel too uncomfortable taking back to the US…
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>>2907
>anything that I wouldn't feel too uncomfortable taking back to the US…

Take it easy, there is no need to feel ashamed. Besides, no amount of giggles from customs can match what I went through when I scanned that Foxy Rena stuff. Make sure you post photographs in this thread when your return.
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Dude, I brought back a bunch of doujins coming back to America. You shouldn't have any trouble as long as they don't check each individual book. I brought back all these doujins and didn't have a problem with them.

>>2899
One thing I would suggest is if you know your favorite artist, look up their website or Twitter. If they're going to Comiket they'll have something there that will show what day they're going and what area they'll be at. Heads up though, if any artist you like is gonna be on day 3 GET THERE AS EARLY AS POSSIBLE.
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>>2909
Is that Clover Rolls book any good?
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>>2909
Good to hear. I wasn't seriously worried about customs since I didn't plan to bring back anything too questionable. Also I was already planning to be there early on the third day anyway since that's when most of the music is there (gotta pick up all my garbage loli denpa CDs).

I'll start with the list provided earlier as a base, but is it easy to just walk around and discover new stuff? As I said I'm a bit new to kemono stuff so I was hoping to just find things which piqued my interest, but I know Comiket's enormous and full of raging otakus so I dunno if that's really feasible.
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I enjoyed it. Not a bad purchase if you come across it. I do wanna get the third one that came out awhile back though.

>>2920
It's both easy and not easy. Finding kemono however is gonna lean more towards not easy if you don't know where to go. Usually the kemono artists are located near the same area so finding one circle will lead you to possibly another. The 1st and 2nd day is the best time to wander around different artist tables to search for doujins. The 3rd day is impossible, you have to know where you're going and you have to maneuver around a SEA of people.
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>>2921
As with the Ukan Muri stuff I found the second and third book, but I can't find the first one.
>>2921
Cool, thanks for the info. I'll go on one of the other days, and I'll see if I can find a copy of the catalog beforehand so I can at least have a starting point. Good to hear that they're at least somewhat clustered together.

If anyone has any circles they'd like me to visit while I'm there, I can't make any promises, but y'know.
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>>2925
Keep an eye open for Amakuchi stuff. I have a feeling he might do another 4koma collection like Foxy Rena 4.5.
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>>2926
Will these 4koma ever be scanned/photographied ?
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>>2929
I'm sorry, I don't want to bend my big book. I'm trying my best to find 4.5 so I can scan it.
What do you do if the artist sells a book at Comiket, you don't know anyone going, and he probably won't do a digital release?
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>>2981
If you're in Japan, get to a doujin store like Toranoana, Melonbooks, or some other store and cross your fingers. If not, check Alice Books and cross your fingers.
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This was up for reservation last night. I expect to see more items popping up in the next few days.
http://alice-books.com/item/show/232-71

This DVD just popped up. It's a circle Bungalow thing if anyone is interested.
Don't forget to pick up Kemokko Lovers 6 as soon as it's available!
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To the person going to Comiket, hope you're ready for it. Don't blow all your money on the first day!
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>>3037
My wallet is full of cash and ready to go. I've located the kemono sections through the catalog so I'll probably head there as soon as I get in (I'll be rushing) and just grab whatever looks interesting.
>>3045
Good luck. I hope you post pictures afterwards.
>>3045
A-All these kemono artists ;_;

Wish I was there.
>>3045
>Sweet Taste

Damn, I wish I was there this year. I need to go back one day.
>>3045
Ahhh, I want it all!
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Spotted in a C89 twitter search..
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>>3054
>dakis
wew
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>>3054
>DUNDEON
Also, to the guy at Comiket, please get the doujins from the guy literally right next to Sindoll too. Especially the Animal Crossing one.
http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=medium&illust_id=54258836
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>>3056
Actually, from the looks of it, there's a lot of kemono circles clustered in the middle Q section. Do the organizers plan out who has which booth, or do the artists?
>>3056
I just got back, will take pics later but I'm 99% sure I picked up that one.
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>>3058
OK yeah this was my haul today. I swear like it felt like I bought more, although that was probably because of the big books and getting shoved around by sweaty otakus looking for loli porn. Overall though would rush again / 10
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Crap, the images aren't loading for me. This has been happening to me for a few days now, where images that are too big (i.e. over a megabyte or so) simply break when I try to open them. It's been happening to me on halfchan too, so it can't be the site, can it?
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Nevermind, it looks like they can still be downloaded and viewed from my Pictures folder. Weird.
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>>3056
I'm fucking angry.

Is there a proxy service that won't rip me off when buying a 600 yen book?
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>>3059
How heavy is that Kemokko Lovers book? Looks pretty thick.
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>>3059
Shit, I'd be content with only a few of those books. You did well, anon.

Also damn KL6 looks thick, how many pages is it?
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>>3059
Seen any new Amakuchi stuff? Is there any?
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>>3063
what exactly do you consider a 'rip off'? The shipping alone is probably more than the book so don't expect to pay less than 1500 to 2000 yen.
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>>3070
That's fine, I can deal with 2000 yen.
>>3064
>>3065
370 pages looks like. Was one of the more expensive books but absolutely worth it.

>>3067
Hm, I don't quite remember. I think there were 2 Foxy Rena volumes available and I didn't know the difference so I just picked up one of them, so maybe the other was new. In retrospect I should've gotten both but between buying KL6 and the Foxy Rena book at the table and blowing 7k yen right there, I think my wallet had enough of that table. Oh well, maybe I can find a bookstore that has some of the stuff I missed.
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>>3072
I have about 12000 yen in USD at the moment for international orders at the moment. I wish I had the luxury of actually traveling there.

Say, do you live in Japan or are you just visiting?
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>>3073
Just visiting, it's actually my first time in Japan. That being said one of my best friends moved to Japan so I could probably justify coming to comiket in the future.
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>>3074
How much did the trip cost you? I take it you are traveling from America.
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>>3075
Booked a few months in advance it was about 2k round trip through ANA (leaving from Chicago, coming back to NYC). You could do cheaper if you're willing to make multiple stops or if you're savvier with bargain hunting than me. Personally I feel direct flights are worth it because in addition to the already long travel time, there's a lot of things which can happen with baggage issues or connecting flights or whatever.
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>>3076
Interesting. I don't have any experience with airlines or with any sort of travel outside Europe. The Trip Advisor website says I could book round flight with a stop in the UK and 6 days at a hotel in Tokyo for around 1000 Euro. I guess I'll have to plan this out if I am going to attend next year or some other time in the future.
>>3076

You didn't get too bad of a deal but I've gotten as low as 1.2 round trip with ANA (and I recommend ANA over any other carrier, its worth the extra)
>>3059
Who is the artist of the pink cat on the cover of that book in the top row of the second image? I can't make out the title.
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>>3081
Says the title is Youkaineko no youjutsu gasshuku nya. I didn't see a twitter handle in the book, but the website is sirokuroanmitu.web.fc2.com

(apologies about the sideways thumbnails, idk why that happens)
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>>3083
(And by sideways thumbnails I guess I mean sideways full size images…)
Does it usually take long for convention items to appear on online retailers like Melonbooks and Alice Books?
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On another note, I went bookstore browsing for kemono stuff after comiket and couldn't find anything except for this magazine (not in akiba at least). I know this stuff is niche but I find it a bit hard to believe that with all the other anime tiddies in these stores there'd be no kemono at all. Am I just not looking hard enough?
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>>3086
whats in that magazine??

keep in mind theres only like 2-3 good doujinnshi marketeering kemono artists

youre probly not gonna find much lol

waste your time at kemoket
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>>3087
That magazine is published by CyberConnect2, it's a bit like the Kemono Book series they released only in magazine form.
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>>3086
Kemono is still niche as fuck, expecting to find it in a bookstore/comicstore is like expecting to find American furry art in a comic store in America; you might very well find 1 or 2 things but no more than that since most artists just sell their stuff at conventions aimed at the audience.
>>3083
>the cat is a male

I probably should've guessed that by the more rounded eyes. Oh well. Thank you for the information.
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>>3089
Wait, CC2 publishes the Kemono magazine, too? I didn't know that. Neat.
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>>3093
You can buy issue 1 from Alice Books if you want it.
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>>3087
Just some short comics and some artwork. Pretty cute stuff overall, I'd recommend it. I'll see if I can grab the first one before I leave, or at least ship it over once I'm back.

>>3091
Honestly I couldn't find a trace of kemololi stuff at comiket, which I find a little bit odd. I mean I guess furry fandoms tend to be on the gay side but given how prominently displayed lolicon is at comiket and at the bookstores, you think there'd be some sort of intersection.
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>>3099
because kemololis are for cuddling, not for sexual
>>3100
Tell that to Ro.
>>3099
There is Ro, but I can't think of anyone other than him that does loli. There is some loli stuff in some of the Kemokko Lovers books, but that's all I can think of.
>>3100
tbh with furfags everything is for sexual
>>3100
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She's old so it doesn't count.
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(but then this isn't porn…)
>>3120
Damn it, it's sold out.
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>>3120
>but then this isn't porn…

I personnally wish there would be more sfw kemono out there.

Damn, why solatorobo didn't get an animated series, but more obscure shit games like Sand of destruction did…
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>>3122
It got sold out as soon as it popped up, so the demand for sfw is there. I saw it on doujinshi.org a couple of days ago and I was hoping to buy it, but I was too late. Maybe it will pop up on Mandarake.
>>3120
wasn't this whole thing scanned somewhere? or am I remembering a different cyclist cheetah?
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>>3126
It's the same cyclist cheetah, this is a compilation of those comics.
>>3126
do you know what this manga is called? can't find it anywhere
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>>3129
http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?type=manga&id=16891

Here is the pixiv link.
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>>3130
Is there a translated version of this manga somewhere? I always wanted to read it, but i don't understand japanese.
http://alice-books.com/item/show/409-15

It's up for sale. I hope Kemokko Lovers 6 goes up tomorrow.
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It finally arrived today. I'll upload a couple of photos later today.

I'm thinking about scanning it on Monday, but I am worried about ruining it.
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>>3314
One picture is a bit blurry, my hands were a bit shaky and taking pictures with a tablet is a bit impractical.

Seems a bit stiffer than most books. I'm not so sure about scanning it.
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>>3059
>Vixen 3 okusama wa okitsune sama
KL6 is finally up for sale and it's 3888円 with 4700円 in EMS shipping costs. I don't know if I should go ahead with this.

I seriously hope it's worth it.
Came rushing in here to announce that I saw KL6 was available on Alicebooks, but it looks like I'm a week late. Oh well.

http://alice-books.com/item/show/254-16
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>>3419
I just checked order tracking. My copy arrived at the regional customs office today. I hope they don't damage it during inspection.
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>>3422
Neat. Be sure to post pics when you get it.
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I was pleasantly surprised since customs didn't charge me for this. I'll take a few more photos in a sec.
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>>3424
Nice. Congratulations on your purchase. I'm jealous. Hopefully I'll still be able to order one when I get some money.
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>>3427
I'm sure it will be up there for a while. I found a place where I can get volumes two and three for a similar price so I'll be buying those as well once I get more money.

Right now I'm looking at some stuff on Furbuy. A Monster Hunter doujin and Sindoll's 12 page Sierra print. I should just save my money and wait for the next volume of Foxy Rena.
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I have been thinking about kemono garage kits ever since I have seen the image of the Foxy Rena figure. Is there a place where I can find this stuff? I would like to buy one.

Pic related, it's the garage kit by Shirokoma.
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Wish someone would re scan Kemoko Lovers 4 its the only one that has no perfect scan.
Its still better than nothing but still.
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>>3454
It's a shame, but it has been 2 years since the release of that book and I doubt anyone would risk ruining their copy.
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Fur-st 11 is coming up, so be on the lookout for new stuff.
Would anyone be interested in buying my spare copy of the Foxy Rena compilation book for 35 dollars? I also have a spare copy of Volume 8 I'd be willing to sell for a portion of the original price. They are in alright shape, almost new since these were the copies I scanned.

Let me know if you are interested and we'll figure out a way to exchange contact information.
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Anyone know where I could order a physical copy of this?

http://www.dlsite.com/ecchi-eng/work/=/product_id/RE166099
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>>4002
It came out in October last year and it's sold out on Alice-Books. Have you tried checking on Melonbooks or Toranoana?
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>>4003
It's not on either of them, fuuuuuuuck
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>>4004
No worries. It's already on exhentai.
Here's a link: http://exhentai.org/g/908720/29d642c420/

It's also already translated into an english as well.
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If this is a one time thing for Kemoket I'm going feel really bad about not being able to buy it. Do they sell this stuff once Comiket rolls around?
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I've never been able to get mandrake to work for some reason. They want some sorta 3D verified cards or some shit and my bank has no idea what I'm talking about when I call them about it. Bit of a shame as they have a ton of shit.
Are there any other good distributors outside of Mandrake and Alice?
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>>4085

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3-D_Secure
>>4085
I encountered that problem last year. I had to go to another bank to open an account just to get a Visa card with that security system. You should read the link posted by the other anon.
>>2068
I found this ONCE. It was on a crappy western auction site. Sold for 50. It was used.
>>4017
Do you have a product name?
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>>4179
http://www.doujinshi.org/book/907747/

It hasn't popped up anywhere online. It seem like it was a convention exclusive item.
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>>4183
If you know Japanese, send Kishibe a polite message on his pixiv. Or just bide your time and see if it pops up on Mandrake or something. Fuck me I want one really badly now too.
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>>4185
The first option is out of the question for now. I'll keep checking Mandarake. Maybe he will do another run for Comiket or some other Kemoket.
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>>4186
I'll get it before you do pal.
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Here is the stuff I purchased this month. All of these books were released during Kemoket 5. I got the Inayama Shrine book from another anon.

The doujin right next to that volume of Foxy Rena is the most recent Sindoll book. I didn't take it out of the plastic. It's packed in with another book, that's why the front cover is obscured.
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>>4262
>Sindoll

You mean Rikose?
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>>4264
The Rikose and Sindoll doujins came packed together. The Rikose doujin is placed over the Sindoll book. Check the first pic and you'll see the rear cover of pic related.
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>>4265

So do you have any interest in scanning and uploading it?
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>>4271
If I had spare copies of each doujin I would do it, but I only managed to get two copies of Foxy Rena 9 which I already scanned.
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>>4273

Meh, that's okay. Is it any good?
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>>4274
It's alright.
>>4262
i want that uchinoko doujin soo bad, if it wasn't for all the hasle to ship and cost ugh, also good to see someone other than me that actualy likes sfw doujins
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>>4438
It wasn't much of a hassle. I just exchanged email addresses with another anon and he only asked for an additional 100 yen fee. It cost around 2500 yen with EMS shipping.
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I'm going to Nipponbashi/Den Den Town in Osaka soon, for only a day, though. Out of the Toaranoana, the K-books, and the Mandarake, which will be the most likely to stock any of the books by Moffle/Mabo? Particularly pic related and Rabbit Love It
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>>4440
I searched on Toranoana and Mandarake, but I found nothing there. I'm not sure about K-books.
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>>4442
For the specific book, or for Moffle or Mabo? I think they have anothe book besides the rabbit one which I might spring for too, but really I just love the art style
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>>4443
I searched using both. I'm not sure about Mandarake because their search engine is a bit bad and I even searched in Japanese. I think Rabbit Love It is in stock on Alice Books.
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>>4444
ik, but I'm not a fan of delivery due to house-sharing reasons, so I was hoping I could get a copy at the store and just hide it in my bags. I suppose I'll just ask, hopefully they can understand a little English. Thanks for your help, fam.
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>>4445
Oh, speaking of, in case anyone checks, which place is just overall the better place to get kemono doujins, particularly in Osaka? Mandarake, Toranoana, or k-books?
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>>4446
I can't even find Mandarake but Toranoana had some decent uh Touhou stuff, but no kemono.
Can I pay with my debit card on Mandarake? It has the 3D security code Mandarake requires. Their payment FAQ doesn't mention debit cards.
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>>4474
A debit card is a credit card anon…. one just uses your balance from your bank instead of approved credit as a limit. This should be common knowledge
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>>4555
I tried. They didn't accept it.
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Did Alicebooks take away their Paypal option recently? All I see is their card option and they won't take my debit card.
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>>4666
The Paypal option is gone for r18 items, but I recently bought a book from there using my Visa Electron debit card. You could always try again with your debit card.
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>>4670
Well that sucks, this site won't let me use my card at all. Wanted to reserve this one doujin I saw but now I can't pay for it.
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>>4675
When you reserve stuff they just save your copy and you then have to pay for it when the release date comes up. Did you try buying something else with the same card or was it just that one reservation?
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Not with the same card but a long time ago I was gonna purchase this one doujin but never paid the invoice due to circumstances. I'm not sure if that was why they wouldn't let me use my paypal again but months later I was able to buy this doujin from them using paypal no problem. Then I bought that Foxy Rena anthology with paypal and didn't run into any trouble. I was never able to use my card on there since I'm this same anon >>2378. Should I just keep trying until it goes through?
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>>4687
You should check with your bank if your card has that 3D security code.
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>>4695
Well I sent them in inquiry, hopefully they can help with this issue. Besides Mandarake I don't know any other place that sells doujins overseas.
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WHY WONT THESE GUYS TAKE MY MONEY?!?!? I'm gonna try getting a Paypal prepaid card from the store and see if that works.
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>>4717
You could try a proxy service like ShoppingMallJapan.
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>>4719
Can it work with Alicebooks? I'm not sure how it works.
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>>4723
Yes. The site has a guide for special orders like that.
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>>4725
>Try Mandarake
>Can't use Paypal for 18+ doujins and can't use card because located in Commiefornia
>Try ShoppingMallJapan
>Use Cash Deposit which uses Paypal
>Receive error: “Invalid Command: pay_ng”

Buying doujins should never be this difficult. Why did you take away your Paypal option Alicebooks?
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Alright finally got my SMJ account up and running and just put in a special order for those two doujins. Now I just hope it works.
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how do I buy these or is Mabo still setting them up
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Check if he has a booth on his Pixiv account.
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>>4770
If it's doujins, eromanga, tapestries, whatever, you're not going to be able to buy them directly. Most proxy services are pretty shit with them too, since they don't have people who know the scene well enough to deal with the specifics - especially around 18+ work.

Give White Rabbit Expresshttp://gelbooru.com//images/7f/ad/7fadd0a3e32472de32c3ba6d9223e1cb.jpg?921352 a try (https://www.whiterabbitexpress.com/). The woman in charge of the proxy orders knows her shit inside and out (she's a doujinshi collector too), is a native English speaker, her people make sure the items get got (to the point of chasing down and contacting sellers directly if that's what it takes) and they'll happily handle any kind of 2D 18+ item (and most 3D too except RL "child models"). Be polite and she'll go out of her way to make sure you get your stuff.
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>>4792
>pasting images into the post also drops a source URL now too
>can't delete own posts
Huh. Well, there you go. I'll have to watch out for that in future.
>>4792
Huh, nice. Well I already signed up with SMJ and it did say that they were able to buy the doujins I wanted. Now I just have to wait I guess for what I need to do next. I'm guessing it's gotta ship to them first.
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>>4796
Don't forget that with SMJ you have to tell them to ship it.
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>>4797
I do? So far in my account page it says I won the bid and that the seller paid. I figured I'm supposed to be waiting for an email or some notification to pay them.
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>>4799
After paying you will have to order them to ship it.
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>>3126
You can read some of it here.
A friend of his translated it.
https://sakasalamp.tumblr.com/post/147150372490/august-flamme-rouge-05-august-flamme-rouge-1
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The worst feeling is when you realize something's not going to be reprinted and was only sold in-person @ comiket. I doubt this ever gets scanned unless he reprints at a later comiket.
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>>4833
Source? Artist's name or something?
http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=medium&illust_id=58425803

If it's a Japanese artist, you can always try http://saucenao.com
>>4792
duuuuuuuuuuuude thanks fam i just ordered from them, from mandarake. It makes it feel a lot easier, although I've only just placed the order, haha.
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>>4840
No prob. In my experience they tend to be a liiiitle bit slower in handling orders made on a weekend, but my guess is that's because they need to process a whole weekend's worth of orders on Monday.
>>4833
Wew, this artist has drawn like one kemono thing ever but I saw he was going to have stuff for sale in the kemono section. Had I known it was going to be a full doujin then I probably would've gotten it.
>SMJ finally sends me an invoice for the doujins
>$40

All because Alicebooks took away their paypal option. Fuck me.
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Is it worth getting one of these?
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If you want those fanbooks, this is the only way to get them nowadays unless someone decides to sell their collection, I found the pages to be too small for the art but that's just me.
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Does anyone know what this is about? Are they selling A5 prints of the second one?

http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?illust_id=59377786&mode=medium
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>>5026

looks like prints yes, but also uh, convention tickets. Sometimes in japan the booklet or poster or such is the ticket or pass to a convention or gallery as well to buy artwork/product
>>4804
I must've missed this post but thank you!
>>3453
to add on to this post, where could I buy kemo figurines in general? preferably pre painted because I'm lazy and bad at it
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>>5037
I've noticed that E2046 sells pre-painted versions of garage kit figures. However I haven't seen them do any kemono material.
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>>5053
>haven't seen them do any kemono material
I got some good news for you http://www.e2046.com/advanced.php?search_keyword=kemono&cat=0
>>5053
That's because they're filthy Chinese bootleggers who only recast or recast+paint kits they're guaranteed a huge return on.

They're bankrolled by Triad interests and pretty much bleach any segment of the GK community they come into contact with. Seriously, fuck those chinks.
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>>5105

still some of the only people that cast shit after its been out of production for ten plus years if they get their hands on it, and your only option as many things fall completely off the face of the planet if not in circulation by those guys. Not saying they're good, just saying why they're around.
The amount of figures that are impossible to get (you're waiting for someone to die, and then hoping their stuff doesn't get thrown in the trash) is obscene. I understand trends and things like that but so many garage-kit one-offs are so rare you would have an easier time buying a heart or liver off of the black market.
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>>5108
well that's a shame, are there places other than there to get kemo figures then? I checked amiami and play asia and "kemono" doesn't really get any results.
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>>5109
Amiami.com had one of the Circle Bungalow garage kits in stock back in 2015. It was the same one that was posted in this thread.
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>>5111
There's gotta be somewhere that sells a large variety of them though right? Or are kemono figures so scarce to begin with most places don't bother stocking them?
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If you're talking about garage kits (which are the majority of kemono figures in existance) then the majority will never appear on sites like Amiami because garage kits are, by definition, small batch work done by circles of amateurs and sold directly to enthusiasts at dedicated events. (The reason they are small batches is because the silicone or rubber molds used to cast the resin parts degrade after a number of uses. Commercial molds used to make mass-scale figures cost tens of thousands of dollars to make, at their absolute cheapest.)

If you want a GK, your best bet is always to go to Japan for WonFes, do your homework, assemble your team, queue early, and fight on the morning battlefield. If you can't do this, your ways to acquire are either direct sale or 2nd hand dealers. Which one depends on whether the work is original or based off a licensed work like a game or manga.

If it's original and unencumbered by copyright, you might be able to contact a circle directly in Japanese (or ask a proxy buyer like White Rabbit above to contact them) and try to arrange purchase of a kit directly if they have any left over. (If they are a popular circle, they will not have any left over after the first hour of WonFes let alone after the event itself.) Check the circles' blogs for possible hints.

If the GK is based off a copyrighted work, you need to be aware of the "day license" system. Basically, when you pay to go to WonFes as a circle, some of that money is passed on as a flat fee to whoever owns the work you've made your GK from. In return, you are granted a "day license" wherein all the kits you bring with you on the day are all fully licensed under copyright law, completely above board. WonFes and other events generally distribute special holographic stickers to circles on the day. These are placed on kits they sell to verify they're day-licensed.

What this means for you is that if you are not able to attend events, second hand dealers like Mandarake or Suruga-ya are your best bet, or Yahoo! Auctions Japan (you will need a proxy bidder for Yahoo) right after an event. The hunt for rare "grail" kits is a constant theme of GK collectors worldwide.

GKs are always sold unpainted. Learning to clean, assemble and paint kits well is an art in and of itself. It's an art that's been around for nearly two decades, so there's a thriving industry to support it.

That covers the basics. Now you know more than the 95% of effort-free hurr dur how 2 buy figure how to get shitposters and can begin your ascent as a gloriously patrician kemono GK collector.
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>>5128
Well damn, I didn't think this would be such a huge thing, but either way, how often does WonFes happen? And do you know any websites with GK painting guides?
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>>5131
WonFes (short for Wonder Festival if that helps your googling) happens twice a year, in summer and winter. It's usually held at Makuhari Messe, which is a large conference venue a ways away from the Tokyo core cities. To get into WonFes, you must purchase a catalogue (doing so well beforehand is highly recommended because it's how you set your targets and make your plans) or purchase a ticket for the same price outside the venue (DON'T do this if you plan to fight in the morning battle).

There are two wings to Makuhari Messe during WonFes. One holds commercial exhibitors, and it's often where PVC figure prototypes are shown before they're put into final production. Often, you can buy special WonFes-only colours of commercial figures from big makers if that's your thing. The other, larger wing is comprised of several halls and has all the doujin GK circles, each occupying a table or for larger circles, several tables. Most will have examples of their current and past kits on display, but you must be very careful to never touch or knock these, and should be aware of the kanji for "sold out", "newest work" etc. so you're not that gaijin who keeps asking for kits from 2 years ago.

As for GK assembling + painting guides, there are tons and tons and tons if you Google around. Kits usually come with a little piece of paper showing the day license sticker, a Polaroid of a finished kit, the recommended assembly order, and sometimes a little diagram of painting areas. If you want to get into painting GKs, you will need to practice. I recommend going through the places I mentioned before and looking for cheap batch sales, where people sell many kits they don't want any more in one sale. You can also get practice with plastic model kits (those cute little egg planes are nice and cheap as are some of the more simple mecha kits) as they share many of the same basic techniques as assembling and painting resin, albeit often much fiddlier.

If you can locate a club or society that paints kits or miniatures that's a good place to go and see if anyone can offer you advice. Don't go saying you want to paint Jap furry ladies, just ask about garage kits and see if anyone knows their shit.
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>>5139
I know this post is old, but I finally did it and bought a Karin GK. I'm gonna shelve it for a while until I'm ready, but do you have any more words of wisdom? Would learning to paint with model tanks and planes be a good idea, and if so do you know of any cheap sets? And what kind of paints and brushes should I look for? I read the /a/ buyfag guide, so I feel a little more prepared but any input would be nice.

Also is there anywhere to buy kemono oppai mousepads?
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>>6431
I'm pretty sure that most garage kit figures are painted at least partly with an airbrush. They actually do sell small ones specifically for modeling, if you're willing to shell out for one. Always airbrush in a well-ventilated place.
Otherwise, a rule you see pretty often is to
>THIN YOUR PAINTS
that is, mix some water into your paint and give your model an even coat by applying multiple thin layers instead of one EXTRA THICC coat straight from the paint jar.
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>https://twitter.com/ukan_muri/status/890902659678347264
>https://twitter.com/ukan_muri/status/887520979072593922
What exactly is Ukan Muri advertising here?
I know he's got a webcomic that's being published by Comic Ryu, and that looks like what this is, but it's evidently lewd enough to justify both crotch and full-page censoring and I don't think Comic Ryu publishes outright R-18 art.
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>>6609
from what i can read, a paperback (newsprint) book/doujin with a 'bonus' which is the color images I am guessing, either inserts or maybe postcard size prints.
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>>6433
>give your model an even coat by applying multiple thin layers instead of one EXTRA THICC coat straight from the paint jar.
Twisting the tip of your brush into a fine point on the palette is a good idea too. Helps you deal with some of the finer details on your miniatures.
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>>6613
Now that the book's actually been released, the links for chapters 3 and 4 of the comic have been taken down from Comic Ryu's website. However, at least for the moment, it's still possible to access the image files for the pages themselves (which I'd recommend either way because Comic Ryu's page viewer sucks).
The URL for the comic's image files follows the format
>http://www.comic-ryu.jp/_youryukai/comic/comic/xx/yy.jpg
where "xx" is the issue number and "yy" is the page number. 03/01.jpg would be the first page of chapter 3, for instance. Maybe someone might want to make a .zip file?

The book itself is only 670 yen on Amazon, if anyone's interested.
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>>6433
THIN YOUR PAINTS
>>6923
With that URL trick, looks like you can view everything up to Chapter 5. Still keeping my eye out for a complete scan of the book.
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So I've never owned a dakimakura before, but was thinking of getting this https://buriedfrog.booth.pm/items/404709 . To anyone who has a daki, how is it?
Where can I buy the pillows? Any other recommendations? The one I'm going for is about $120, is this a good price?
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>>6923
I made a zip. First link is chapter 1-6 straight from the website, second is the same thing run through a lossless image optimizer (saves about 3MB).
https://my.mixtape.moe/tyuyiq.zip
https://my.mixtape.moe/feqyby.zip
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>>7503
The download keeps failing. Could you upload those somewhere else?
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>>7590
I don't know of many good file sharing websites, but I tried. You might want to check mixtape again, I didn't have any trouble just now.
https://transfer.sh/HsaSw/tyuyiq.zip
https://transfer.sh/tbabR/feqyby.zip
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>>7631
There we go, worked perfectly. Thanks! Still trying to find someone willing to translate it unfortunately.
>>7495
You the guy who got made fun of on twitter for asking someone about buying that daki?
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>>7656
No, I don't make posts on twitter. Would still like some info about it though.
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>>7657
about the daki that is, not the guy.
>>7657
>>7495
The actual pillow you can get for much cheaper but there are some great ones you can get. I like this bamboo one from Amazon personally. Lots of resistance for hugging but soft enough to sleep on comfortably.
http://a.co/b63XqZ0

This site is also great too. Lots of different pillows to get. But what's best for you? Can't say. You may want to go into a store and find out yourself how soft they are.
http://www.royalpillow.com/body-pillows/

>The one I'm going for is about $120, is this a good price?
Unless it's one of those 800 threaded ones from Royalpillow, then no. You can usually get some good stuff for nearly half the price. And assuming you can't get that body pillow yourself, you can always use a forwarding or proxy service like Whiterabbitexpress and Biginjap to get it for you. Personally, I would say use BiJ for more fragile things. White doesn't ship things as safely as BiJ when it comes to how they wrap their products.
I'm currently trying to reserve a book on alice-books.com , but I can,t find the "reserve item" button. (Yes, I've asked the website, but the answers they gave were'nt helpful.)
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It's on the item page where the "Add to Cart" button normally is. If it isn't there then either it hasn't started accepting reservations yet or it's already sold out.
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>TFW want to get this phone case
>but I don't want to out myself as a furfag everywhere I go
Suffering.
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>>8983
I imagine most normies would disregard it as a cute cartoon character.
Only true internet people would know your dark secret.

Also is that character superposed to be from something or is it just a Flavor of the months OC.
Iv seen some art of it from different artists.
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It's the OC of mayoi I think, and his artist friends sometimes draw it for him.
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So buriedfrog's booth page has been set to private, and his booth links don't seem to be on his pixiv profile anymore. Anyone know what happened? And is there another way to buy his stuff now?

On a semi related note, what are some good daki covers I can get right now? Stuff that is like pic related. I don't think any of my favorite artists are selling any.
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>>1551
Okay, but I have some questions. What continents can Mandarake shipped internationally? If not, proxy service will help, but does it also shipped internationally?

Speaking of international, I wonder if the international shipping is more expensive than domestic shipping?
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Got these for myself a little while ago, kind of a christmas present. Really enjoying them.
>>9251
I think they pulled a delete everything and withdrew from the kemono scene for whatever personal reasons.
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That's terrible. He did the most amazing stuff.
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>>9251
I don't know what happened to Buried Frog. His Twitter is flagged as private as well. I know the last picture he uploaded is dated September 25th. I put some Tweets through Google translate and found one dated September 28th that says
"I was ashamed of paintings I did not get?
Sometimes I turn it off and disappear, but it's a picture I painted.
If I enjoyed drawing time, that would be enough.
If you draw with your interest as a hobby, you must have fun."
So it looks like he wasn't enjoying drawing anymore or was ashamed of his work or something and closed everything down.

As for dakis, I have pics related. They're comfy to cuddle with at night. Links if you're interested.
http://alice-books.com/item/show/647-15
https://alice-books.com/item/show/256-59
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>>9838
>>9839
Damn, that sucks. First, Nakamura, now this.

Where's the archive thread?
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>>9854
If you're willing to trust download links from strangers then here's my pixiv folder of his stuff.
https://files.catbox.moe/vdlqc9.rar
And here's some links to his doujins. Though this sucks because I can't buy any of his merch anymore.
https://exhentai.org/g/864759/6e37442ce9/
https://exhentai.org/g/864760/77c0ccfb67/
https://exhentai.org/g/871675/48cc076597/
https://exhentai.org/g/891824/6d715e12ce/
https://exhentai.org/g/902693/dc39a39997/
https://exhentai.org/g/906051/b70afd7870/
https://exhentai.org/g/910605/b34ccf9450/
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>>9857
>Looking at the latest post, it stated 12/22/2017.
That wasn't bloddy much, was it?
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>>9870
He started posting on twitter more, and I didn't have anything of his saved from there when he shut it down.
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>>9872
Damn straight.
>>9854
>>9857
This should be a more complete collection. It has most of what was posted on his Pixiv, Twitter, and Tumblr. It was exported from Hydrus though, so it isn't very organized. Unfortunately, I deleted some of the stuff I didn't care for (mostly some of his older works, WIPs, some alt backgrounds, and cum variants), so I can't say it's a complete archive.
https://mega.nz/#!Lew3hAZD!UwPlWTQueCO0d68habGAaeaun8ICYVAvgZj6XgS9izk
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>>9877
Damn, bruh! Oh damn! Thank you dor your kind gift, but why did you deleted some of them?
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>>9878
When I first started collecting kemono, I thought of it as my own personally curated gallery. As time went on, I started treating it more like I was archiving all of their work, leaving stuff I didn't like in the inbox and putting stuff I liked in the archive, but not outright deleting anything (sans duplicates). I've been going back and redownloading a bunch of artist's stuff that I previously deleted to have a truly complete archive of their work, but unfortunately, Buriedfrog closed everything down before I got to him.
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>>9879
A similar things happened to me, except worse. I didn't managed to get almost all of his work at all since I was busy saving some of the artist's stuff for my personal collection.
>>9839
https://twitter.com/beriflo/status/1084801629197463552
https://twitter.com/beriflo/status/1084802796589703172
https://twitter.com/beriflo/status/1084804380446973954
https://twitter.com/beriflo/status/1084805088772743168
https://twitter.com/beriflo/status/1084806072630558720
So his Twitter account is open again.
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>>9900
Unfortunately, it still looks like all of his drawings are gone, unless I'm missing something.

Either way, it definitely seems like he wanted to move on from drawing kemono and decided to nuke all of his stuff. Fortunately, it sounds like he's thinking of making his Pixiv public again, but it also sounds like he's saying some stuff "isn't recoverable."
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>>9901
Well, this is going to suck, since this means it will be lost forever.

Guess we hope that he will re-upload his remaining pictures again soon.

Thanks for those who manages to recover some of his works, though still hoping for a completed collection. Same goes for others like Nakamura, Sumi, etc.
>>9901
>it definitely seems like he wanted to move on from drawing kemono
His twitter profile pic is a rather lewd looking krystal that he drew. I kinda doubt it. He must've just had a melt down or something but got over it.
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I hope you're right. He's one of my favorite kemono artists, so it'd be a shame if he disappeared, especially if he doesn't reupload his work. The thing is, he mentioned in one of the tweets >>9900 linked that he had another unnamed account that he was uploading to that he didn't want to be connected to Buried Frog, which makes me worried that he's trying to phase out his connection with kemono and focus on other things. But hopefully he's going to continue both making kemono art and whatever new stuff he's doing. Maybe he initially thought he needed to reset everything and start anew, and then changed his mind and decided it doesn't need to be all or nothing.
I was thinking about buying a doujin, but I'm afraid that in my country, they might confiscate it if they contains some sexual stuff, even if it's not outright porn. I'm don't buy R-18 doujins for a good reason, but if some doujind contains sexual stuff, regardless of its ratings, I can't tell if they going to confiscate or not. Please help.
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>>9908
What doujin and country? Can’t really help otherwise.
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>>9909
Some Asian like South Korea, China, Taiwan, Philipines, etc do not allow porn to be sold at some asian countries.

Green shows porn allowed
Yellow show porn is allowed but with some restrictions.
Red means porn is banned.
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Something like this?

http://alice-books.com/item/show/108-22
http://alice-books.com/item/show/108-15

Now I'm not gonna buy all of them, just serving as an example.

All of these books aren't porn, yet they do have some suggestive themes, like scantly dressed boys, obviously, and possibly nudity, even if they don't show genitalia. Don't know if it's acceptable.
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>>9911
It really depends on your country
Check your laws and look up prior cases. Ask your local enthusiast group.
I know this shit won't fly through my country's border, but I think some people managed to smuggle them.
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>>9912
Well, I'm not gonna tell you my real locations for security reasons, but if I had to say it, it's somewhere in South-East Asia.

How do I check the laws? Am I going to check it on Wikipedia?
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>>9913
Check various government websites. Look for import laws and media regulation laws in general.
Most importantly though ask if anyone has tried importing doujins before, and their experience.

I'm SEA too btw.
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>>9914
Can't find it though. Don't know where it is.

I just remember that someone from SEA just bought an R-18 doujin for his friends without getting into trouble. Don't know how he accomplish that since I haven't talked to him and I'm don't live in Thailand.

https://twitter.com/aun66175/status/902175713163304960

Also, did you ever bought doujins too?
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>>9915
I think Thai is just more relaxed. They even have legal prostitution. That guy isn't the only guy I've seen importing R-18.
You definitely want to try looking for others in your country who have also tried importing/smuggling these.

I never bought any. Even if I did I'd only buy digital, I don't want to keep anything physical until I move out.
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>>9916
I can't seems to find anyone else to buy for me aside for a relative of mine, but only because I can't buy it myself. He/she doesn't buy porn too, and I don't know if he/she could accept something like the examples above.

As for Thailand, I can see why it is, even though from what I see at the map that Wikipedia gave us, it's illegal. Same goes from Taiwan, as I've seen many R-18 stuff lurking around there and even uncensored too.
>>9910
Maybe this map didn't age very well as time passed, but I don't know.
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>>9917
Ask around in some local anime/manga/doujin groups.
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>>9918
Where?
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>>9919
Still haven't buy it, and I don't know what you're supposed to mean about the local anime/manga/doujin groups. Do they resides in real life, or the internet?
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>>9925
On the internet, they may do offline meetups.
In my country there are several fagbook groups and forums dedicated to these communities. There should be several in yours too, you just have to look for them.
Try googling anime + your country and work from there.
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>>9926
What? I don't see them here in my country, at least so far. Also, I'm not allowed to leave outside my home unless another person accompanies me, which is problematic for me since most of them are part of my family and forbids me for buying porn.

I wonder which country in SEA is pretty lax.
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>>9927
>Also, I'm not allowed to leave outside my home unless another person accompanies me,
Wat? Are you a Muslim girl or something?
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>>9928
No, and I'm not a girl. This happened several months ago.
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>>9929
Well what happened?
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>>9930
Sorry for the late reply, but here's why. Sorry If I'm rushed.

Well, back before my family knew about what I had done, I met a guy on the Internet who helped me buy something I always wanted. I thought he was a scammer, but as I found out, he isn't, so I trusted him.

After asking him to buy something I want, I went to the bank to give the money to him, as in buying a book, but before I'll get the chance to do so, I got scolded by my family for this, and this gets worse as it goes on. Then I will never seen him again after this.

Nowadays, my family are fine with me buying a book, but only if I don't buy porn and ask one of my relatives to buy it for me.
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>>9932
If you can't ask anyone to buy it for you then you're screwed anyway.
If you have money in your bank account and you can do transfers over the internet, you can ask someone to buy and scan it for you. You won't have a physical copy but you won't have the liability of keeping one either.
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>>9933
Well, like I said before, I do have a relative of mine who help me buy stuff since he/she's the only one with the bank account, but only if it's not porn. Since I don't buy R-18 stuff, this doesn't matter to me, but when I bought something that looked like this examples above despite the fact that it's not a pornography book, I don't know if it's going to be confiscated or not.
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Apologize for the late response, but I do have a complete collection of Beriflo's work, at least from Tumblr, given that it was saved in response to Tumblr's decisions to close down all of 18+ content. Plus, since it was saved from Tumblr, pretty much all the images are down-scaled.

https://files.catbox.moe/umdh3n.rar
I just checked BuriedFrog's pixiv and it looks like he uploaded a bunch of stuff again recently.
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>>10012
And given that what the artist had said before, this won't be a complete collection, which is something I wish. From what I've been seen, variants are pretty much what's missing so far, but other things like the old might be as well.

I certainly don't have faith in saving, especially since I didn't even manage to save all of them (Tumblr aside, but even then, it's down-scaled.).
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Posted this in the wrong thread. >10073
Any advice of where I could find kemono doujins online outside of Mandarake, Yahoo auction and Suruga-ya?

As for recent stuff I bought. Pic related.
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>>10082
Fucked up that link. >>10073
>>10082
Those are pretty much the big 3 for second-hand doujins. For new doujins AliceBooks, Booth, and Melonbooks are the other go-to places for kemono doujins.
If you're trying to collect all the kishiben doujins best advice I can give is to put them in your surugaya notification list and have unlimited patience. Also nice taste with the Rikose doujin.
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>>10082
That Inubokko Heroes one, I remember seeing that cover years ago. Seems like that artist doesn't really do kemono anymore.
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>>10084
I thought as much. But the info is appreciated. As for the Rikose doujins, it had a bad scan on Sad Panda. So I was going to scan it. I was also working on the Kemono Magazines too so I thought I might as well finish the set by scanning this one some day.

>>10085
Yeah I saw the same thing. What a shame.
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Is it just me or does the "cart' button on Mandarake just gone dull and dark. I haven't bought it yet myself, but somethings wrong about it.
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>>10192
It's just the default color for the cart button when you're not logged in, which I can see from your screenshot since the "favorite" button is grayed out.
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>>10195
This explains everything.
But back in the day, it used to be bright red, so what happened? Did you guys saw the change, too?
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>artist posts pic of great boob mousepad design
>get excited
>it’s actually just keychain
My disappointment is immeasurable, and my day is ruined.
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>>10270
From that second pic you could probably shoop it and have it made at a custom boob mousepad place, it might be a little low-res though.
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Does anyone know how reliable Alicebooks is in restocking items? Cause miyubi announced a reprint of his fox daki for kemoket 8 and I really want to get it, but a proxy would be really expensive, and Alice books still lists the item as sold out.
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>>10279
Alright well it seems alicebooks wont be getting a restock at all. So I guess does anyone know of proxy services that will actually go to kemoket and buy it for me? I know of big in Japan and white rabbit but they seem more for online items. pls help
>>10279
>Does anyone know how reliable Alicebooks is in restocking items?
it's not their choice to make, they just distribute I think. The artist has to send them more supply, and if they don't, then alicebooks can't send any more.
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>>10310
Yeah, and I can't find any way to buy it direct from kemoket. Looks like I'll have to try and snipe it from a reseller. Any tips for that?
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>>10313
same boat as you, i wanna find a proxy but cant find any
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Erm… Wha-?
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>>10335
Are you unfamiliar with the concept of an onahole or something?
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>>10336
I do know about it. It's just that I've never seen something that has a kemololi on it.
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>>10337
Probably because unless the onahole is somehow more kemono than others, there's not a whole lotta point in it. Cause other than the onahole you're just masturbating as usual, and the kemono part is filled in by imagination/porn. So really you could buy any onahole and just pretend it's a kemololi snatch. Though I've never seen a kemo one either.
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>>10338
This sounds suspicious…
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>>10339
Why?
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>>10417
Remember the time where most western furry artists likes to shove everything with bizarre fetish and such? This lad at sadpanda can explain this better:

"I have come to realise that my dislike for furry pretty much springs from western artists. Usually their art is very cringeworthy and they insist trying to fit as many as possible weird fetishes in their art as possible.
And everyone has a dick. If not, they will soon grow one."

I don't know if this is a coincidence or not.
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>>10418
I'm not really seeing how that quote relates to a kemono onahole.
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>>10421
Looking at the inside of the onahole, this is what it reminds me of.
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>>10422
But the inside is just made like that so putting your dick in it feels nice. And an onahole is the complete opposite of a penis.
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>>10423
No thanks.

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